Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga

Proposed split of List of Pokémon anime characters

Inactive talk page over at List of Pokémon anime characters, so I'm putting it here as well. (Please respond at the source page, linked directly below)

Nomination of Bleach season 2 for featured list removal

I have nominated Bleach season 2 for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Bleach season 3 has also been nominated for featured list removal; you are encouraged to join the discussion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Bleach season 4 has also been nominated for featured list removal; you are encouraged to join the discussion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Bleach season 5 has also been nominated for featured list removal; you are encouraged to join the discussion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:List of Lupin the 3rd Part V: Misadventures in France episodes#Requested move 26 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of Lupin the 3rd Part V: Misadventures in France episodes#Requested move 26 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 17:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Clannad (video game)

Clannad (video game) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 18:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Second opinión

Kiruko has been nominated for a while but the reviewer requested a second opinion about size. Could somebody provide it? Cheers Tintor2 (talk) 02:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Search for Japanese language sourcing?

Can someone assist in looking for Japanese language sourcing for Pokémon: The Electric Tale of Pikachu? It's currently up for AfD and while I think it's very likely to pass AfD, it wouldn't hurt to do some searching for Japanese language sources.

I'm not fluent in Japanese at all and searching with Google Translate is difficult since I don't really have a way to limit the results so that the garbage sources are lessened. It's also possible that it would be referred to more casually by the date and author rather than the full title, which also complicates search attempts. Can anyone help search? I'm going to post in the Pokemon WP as well. Thank you! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

AFD closed as speedy keep as withdrawn, nothing left to do here. ミラP@Miraclepine 21:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Dragon Ball

Dragon Ball has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

90's shojo manga series clean-up

I've been cleaning up Tenshi Nanka ja Nai, Last Quarter, and The Devil Does Exist for the past month and hoping to expand them, but this is the most I can do for now. If someone has additional sources and reviews, that would be great. Cheers. lullabying (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

New message from Emir of Wikipedia

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion: Death & Rebirth § How should we organise Death & Rebirth?. I thought you were a WikiProject which might be interested in this discussion. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Infobox animanga § Music parameter

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox animanga § Music parameter, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Question on Fair Use Images

I'm not well-versed on the topic of images and what is or isn't fair use and when they should or shouldn't be used, especially within the context of Japanese copyright law vs US copyright law and photos/representations of people.

Akiyuki Shinbo currently has no image as no free images of him exist, they're all protected by copyright.

Of those that do exist, about half were taken by Yuuichirou Oguro for WEB Anime Style. Could these be used under Fair Use rationale and limitations?

There are also things like this portrait by Ume Aoki which were featured in one of his columns in Newtype magazine. Would that be something that could be used in Fair Use?

I'd like to note that this is an example as there are various creators I know of with similar circumstances, so I'd like to know what Wiki's guidelines are for this. I don't know if this is the correct spot to ask, but since I'm speaking within the niche scope of JP-related copyright and this specific WikiProject, I'm hoping someone knows. Thanks. Sarca sc (talk) 01:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I personally would not use any of those images, as none of them are free, and because Akiyuki Shinbo is still alive (meaning that there is still the possibility that free images can be made available in the foreseeable future), it makes it even harder to justify the rationale of using them. lullabying (talk) 01:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

WP:NFC#UUI says that non-free images cannot be used for living people. Link20XX (talk) 02:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I see. Sarca sc (talk) 05:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Mink

I want to recreate Mink (manga) after the original article was deleted in 2009 per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mink (manga). I have since found several sources that can establish its notability. It says I should contact the person who deleted the article, but Jayjg was last active in May 2024, and the person who made the original delete request is no longer on Wikipedia. lullabying (talk) 02:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Lullabying: Well, it's been over fifteen years, so if you think they cut it for notability, feel free. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Are you sure? Usually undeleting is for preserving edit history on the same topic. lullabying (talk) 02:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

If you want to get the edit history restored, my best advice would be to message an administrator in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles on their talk page and explain your reasoning. They should be able to fulfill this request for you. Link20XX (talk) 03:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Is this Azumi Asakura?

Japanese singer You Kikkawa at the 2016 Kaohsiung Pier 2 Animation Festival

Japanese singer You Kikkawa at the 2016 Kaohsiung Pier 2 Animation Festival

In my continuing project of finding free images for articles, I found this Creative Commons Attribution licensed YouTube video, and I am reasonably sure it is Azumi Asakura. But not completely. My knowledge of Japanese voice actresses is ... sparse. Can someone who knows more about the subject please confirm or deny, so I can grab a frame of the video for the article, or not? --GRuban (talk) 16:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@GRuban: I admit that I am not much more knowledgeable here, but she posted on her blog on the same day the video was uploaded the she was at an event in Taiwan and she looks like the photo on her agency profile, so it's probably her. Link20XX (talk) 19:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Nope, that's You Kikkawa. Here is her agency profile to match. This is the official website for the event, the Pier 2 Animation Festival in Kaohsiung, which mentions You Kikkawa was holding a mini live show there. lullabying (talk) 02:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction. Admittedly I didn't put too much effort into checking. Link20XX (talk) 02:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

No problem. You Kikkawa currently has no free images uploaded to Wikimedia, so a screenshot of the video featuring her is still a good find regardless. lullabying (talk) 05:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Awesome awesomeness - thank you both! I made the best full length and headshot I could find, and added them to You Kikkawa. Want to do more? That YouTube channel seems to have filmed multiple acts of that festival, but as demonstrated, I have no ability to identify who is who in them. If there are any performers that you can identify that we have articles about without images, I would be happy to grab more screenshots and illustrate those articles. --GRuban (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I got the event name wrong! The official English title is actually Pier-2 Art Center Anime Festival, according to their official website. I looked through the videos and most of them are cosplayers. Kaori Ishihara and Azumi Asakura were at the event but they were doing a talk session (basically a Q & A panel) and there is no footage. Other than that, these two videos feature Taiwanese singer Soso Tseng, who currently does not have an English article. lullabying (talk) 03:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! That article on ZH seems to already have a reasonable image, though, so I don't think grabbing a screenshot is necessary. Thanks for your help, and I will be sure to come to you with any more anime performer issues; feel free to ping me if you need to search for images in ... a western alphabet, let's say. (My success rate searching for a free image for a given subject is about 10-20%, which isn't great, but isn't zero either.) --GRuban (talk) 17:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Licensing clarification on the infoboxes

It has come to my attention that most of the links on the infoboxes labelled "Crunchyroll" linked to the streaming service instead of the company itself that was once known as Funimation in several anime articles. Many of the shows that are licensed by them have streaming rights globally (for the most part) and home video rights in selected regions such as North America, Europe and Quebec, the UK (fka Manga Entertainment) and Australia (fka Madman Anime). Take Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun and Rent-A-Girlfriend for example; those are linked to the streaming service rather than the company itself as with the case of Frieren. Should we propose to change the links for Crunchyroll from the streaming service to the company? Feel free to share your opinions.

As with the case of Sentai Filmworks, I may propose to include a small hatnote that Section23 Films is distributing its titles on home video in North America while Hidive has the streaming rights in US, Canada, UK, Ireland and Australia. Crunchyroll (before Sony bought them) streamed the titles and Funimation's branches outside of North America had the rights to several Sentai titles. Hope this helps. --- 174.93.39.93 (talk) 15:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Years ago back when Crunchyroll and Funimation were two separate companies there were a bunch of discussions and confusion about licensing. A common scenario was a show would be streaming on Crunchyroll and have a home video release from Funimation. But it was often unclear which company had actually licensed the show. At one point Crunchyroll just outright published a list of all the shows they had the "master license" for, but even then editors were still arguing about it lol. Anyway, getting back to your original question, I'm assuming that shows that link to Crunchyroll (streaming service) were originally licensed by Crunchyroll directly, and ones that link to Crunchyroll (company) were originally Funimation instead. So technically shows in the former category were never licensed to Funimation (now Crunchyroll LLC) and linking them to that page would be incorrect. But honestly it doesn't really matter either way now since the two companies merged. Unless other editors feel particularly strongly about it, my suggestion would be to just leave it alone and not waste your time trying to "fix" it. CurlyWi (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

IMO but actually, it would also appear that many of the pre-2022 licenses that were formerly held by Ellation (which owned Crunchyroll, VRV and Otter Media) are now held by Crunchyroll, LLC (as seen on the back covers on their DVDs with the disclaimers: "Licensed by Crunchyroll, LLC" (2022-present), "Licensed by Funimation Global Group, LLC (2019-2022), Licensed by Funimation® Productions, Ltd. (before 2019), vice versa.) After all, they are the same company as @Sonic Phoenix tried hard to fix the edits. Sentai was also the one releasing many Crunchyroll titles IIRC while Discotek did a few. 174.93.39.93 (talk) 18:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I mean if you want to go check the back of the DVD box for all of these and update the links accordingly I don't think you'll get much opposition here. Like I said above, personally I don't think it really matters either way since they're the same company now, so fussing with the links seems like a waste of time. But if you're really passionate about this, don't let me stop you. CurlyWi (talk) 19:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Hm...

I hope this could be right but I have edited Future Diary and decided to propose to link Crunchyroll LLC to the Funimation Entertainment label. The series prior to 2022 rebranding should stay as is. 174.93.39.93 (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

 Comment: Why do they continue to get carried away with the advice given by the IP, this is the user who repeats the same entry in the forums at the beginning of the previous months here on Wikipedia with the same topic in which we will not listen to him because the IP is the sockpuppet of Imperial meter owned by his original sockmaster Silence of Lambs and for me it's just a WP:DUCK. 64.32.125.197 (talk) 23:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

GA for Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi - still looking for someone who could help with Japanese sources

This is being reviewed for GA, I expect it to pass. But I still would like to find someone interested in this enough to help check Japanese sources - for now this is based solely on Polish (since English don't exist; the manga was a big hit in Poland but has never been officially released in English). It would be interesting to learn what reception manga got in Japan, but that's beyond my ability to write about. Would anyone here be interested in helping out? (I expect there's not that much - the manga doesn't have a ja wiki article, either). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

There seems to be a contradiction between the Japanese GFantasy wikipedia page and the English Wikipedia Page?

I posted this on the Gangan comics wikipedia Talk page as well, but I figured it might be helpful to post this suggestion on this talk page too. There's contradictory information about GFantasy's editorial demographic between the English and Japanese Wikipedia articles/sections on it. The Japanese wikipedia page for GFantasy magazine lists the editorial demographic as unisex middle and high school students (中・高校生男女), while the english section for GFantasy on the Gangan comics page says its editorial demographic is Shonen (少年). Additionally, the source used to cite this statement of the magazine being in the shonen editorial demographic is a blog post where the comments under the blog dispute the magazine being under the shonen editorial demographic. This does not serve as robust evidence to support the statement that GFantasy Magazine is a shonen magazine, which is in contradiction to the Japanese article on it. This seems like a conflict that should be addressed to make the Gangan comics wikipedia page as accurate as possible. AlexBW0524 (talk) 04:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

The demographic of this magazine has come up before. The source the article uses is from Manga Bookshelf, which the project considers to be reliable. Additionally, Manga News and Mechademia: Second Arc, Vol. 6, User Enhanced (2011), pp. 81 (a peer-reviewed journal) both describe Monthly GFantasy as a Shōnen magazine. Meanwhile, the Japanese Wikipedia is not a source per WP:CIRCULAR (just because they state something doesn't mean we have to as well) and the Japanese page currently has no source for that statement to begin with, so I don't see any problem with calling it a Shōnen magazine. Link20XX (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing up the Manga News and Mechademia sources! One issue with citing the Manga Bookshelf blog specifically is, in the comments of the cited blog article, the author Melinda Beasi says she, herself, used the fact that the English wikipedia article section on GFantasy describing it as a Shonen magazine to inform her blog post. Thus, using her article as the supporting source for the statement that GFantasy is a shonen magazine, when she herself used the english wikipedia article to conclude that GFantasy was a shonen work, indicates that some other citation should be used instead. (This is the link to the blog post with her comment stating this in the comments section: https://mangabookshelf.com/2010/11/05/fanservice-friday-a-girls-gfantasy/)

Here is the direct quote I'm referencing from her comment in the comments section on the blog:

"Thank you for coming by!

Can you tell me if that has always been the case? I realize as someone who does not speak Japanese, my ability to research this is limited. But English Wikipedia articles for the magazine & indeed for every single title serialized in it, past or present, list the demographic as shonen. That seems like a huge disconnect.

Indeed, every single thing I can find about the magazine in English indicates it is shonen, though I’ll grant that there is very little to be found overall, which was part of the frustration that led me to write this article. :)

http://comipedia.com/magazine/gangan-fantasy-gfantasy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangan_Comics#Monthly_GFantasy

http://www.mangaupdates.com/publishers.html?pubname=GFantasy" AlexBW0524 (talk) 05:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Another interesting source I found when looking is this article by Erica Friedman, a noted anime critic, which discusses how Monthly GFantasy's demographic shows the issues with using that system. In a somewhat related note, I'm surprised the English Wikipedia doesn't have articles for the Square Enix magazines. Based on this discussion, it seems like there might be enough to create at least a Monthly GFantasy article. Link20XX (talk) 17:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional article! I'll definitely try to get around to changing the citation on the GFantasy section with the sources you provided as they offer better support of the magazine's categorization in this instance/context (I also found the Mechademia article an interesting read!). On a side note, it seems like GFantasy is in a similar situation to Comic Gene, just without explicitly stating that they're "shonen for girls" like Gene does. I'm a bit inexperienced in article creation, but it would probably be worthwhile to begin drafting a Monthly GFantasy magazine article. AlexBW0524 (talk) 18:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)